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Dona
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Button & her friends Reply with quote

Took some new pics recently, of our little Dwarf "Buttons".... and some of her pasture buddies.

Button with some of my co-workers. I took her to work with me one day a couple weeks ago. Just put her in the cab of my truck & she rode right along with me! Laughing


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This picture just cracked me up! Laughing Poor Bev, just couldn't keep up with Button....this girl LOVES to run!


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And here she is at home....


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This is our Jr. stallion "Kickapoo's Apache Moon". He is two years old, approx. 30" and we are expecting his first foals next year! Very Happy


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Here are some of Button's "playmates".....all 2007 colts born here this year.

Kickapoo's Boy O Boy (partially clipped)


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Kickapoo's Incognito (Inky) (very tiny...20" at 3 months)


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And Kickapoo's Sacred Moon (the black Sabino colt in the picture with him belongs to my friend. He was just "visiting" along with his dam)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! My Gosh! I about died laughing at the picture of little Buttons running with poor Bev trying to keep up with her!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

Thank you SO much for sharing these GREAT pictures with us Dona! What a treat! Very Happy

Give that baby girl some sugars, if she'll stand still long enough. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That little Button is just the cutest thing ever! Thank you for the pictures. How old is she now and how tall is she??? She looks so tiny in the pictures. Thanks again. Cindy

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be a stupid question but what makes Buttons a dwarf? She looks Ok in the pictures, just small.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take another look at the other "normal" foals I posted....you will see there is a drastic difference between them & Button.

Button has a very short neck, undershot jaw, high placed nostrils, stubby legs, big belly & she is built like a Mac truck...very big boned & stocky.

But yes....she is cute as a button & we are lucky in the fact that she is not affected severely. The only real probably she has is her tendons were very lax on her rear legs causing her to walk on her heels & they also rolled to the outside. So she is wearing Magic Shoes until they get stronger.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for posting this Dona, you did a good job of explaining why Buttons is a dwarf Min. and I was going to say that the one picture of her and the black colt is perfect for a comparrison. Very Happy

YEP! she is IS cute as a Button, that's for sure! Very Happy
Hopefully you will be able to enjoy this baby for MANY years to come.

I have been SO fortunate with my little Tessa, she's going to turn 13 years old in January! That's GREAT for a dwarf Mini....with her dwarf characteristics not being so severe, it sure has heped her.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janell took the words right out of my typing fingers Laughing You did a GREAT job explaining Dona. I love the "mac truck" line as that is so true. Pink Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonderful photos. Love the one with Buttons and Bev. These little one sure do have some energy, don't they Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dona
She really is a cute as a button isnt she!! Thank you so much for sharing your photos. I havent been on in a while but we have a miniature horse forum in Ireland and as minis are just taking off here we have been discussing dwarfism as many on our forum are just starting out with minis and there are a lot of problems here with dealiers selling horses with bad conformation and dwarfism. I was wondering if you would mind us showing a couple of your pics on our forum or if not, can we direct people to view them on here as she doesnt look particularly dwarfy until as you say, she is standing next to a normal foal. Its the minimal dwarfs that can make it difficult to know what you are looking at,Thanks so much again.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kim~
SO GOOD to see you posting here once again. Very Happy

I would like you to feel free to use any pictures that I have in my photo albums, if you would like.

This is just my opinion, but I don't feel that Dona's little Buttons is a "minimal dwarf". Yes, her dwarf characteristics may not be quite as sever as many dwarves right now, but many times a dwarf's characteristics will get more pronounced as they mature, too...not saying that Button's will, but...

A "minimal dwarf" in my thoughts may only have one dwarf characteristic, it doesn't make them a true dwarf, but it does make them a minimal dwarf, IMO. But most likely is carying the dwarf gene.

Kim you wrote:

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Its the minimal dwarfs that can make it difficult to know what you are looking at


I have to agree with you, as it IS the minimal dwarves or a horse with even one dwarf characteristic that REALLY makes a difference in the breed, as MANY folks do NOT know what to look for as far as dwarf characterisctics. John Eberth, and I myself, feel that if a horse has even one dwarf characteristic, such as a domed forehead, it is most likely carrying the dwarf gene.

A horse that has produced a dwarf foal, has told the breeder that it IS carrying the dwarf gene, yes, even if those horses are bred to different horses next time, they MAY not produce a dwarf foal, but chances are very good that that foal will be a carrier! Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much for your help and for kindly letting us use your photos to educate others. I shouldnt have called Buttons a minimal dwarf, what I meant was that to look at her first, the dwarf characteristics arent as obvious as some (including the one I bred which I never used either parent again but placed them in pet homes.) Thank you again for your warm welcome too, I havent been online much at all for most of this year, due to illness but also to the fact that I married my true love! The man I was engaged to and had a son with 20yrs ago got back together when he and his son were reunited!! Im really happy and now the wedding is over and life is settling down, I`ll be on a bit more often! :-)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! Kim I think a LOT of folks would consider Dona's little Buttons a minimal dwarf, and everyone is entitled to thier own thoughts, I was just expressing mine.

WOW! Shocked I guess you have had a LOT of stuff going on in your life! I'm sorry to hear that you have been ill. Bless your heart. :-But how wonderful that you have married your true love! Very Happy It's it funny how life works out sometimes huh! I wish you all the very best and a happy ever after life now. Very Happy

I hope you will be around here more now. Bravo I would LOVE to see some pictures of your animals and your countryside, I'm sure it's beautiful! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the view from our kitchen window
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and this is the hotel in the Wicklow mountains we got married in
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........and this is one of our miniature Daxies "Killian"
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more to follow!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slaneyrose wrote:
Hi Dona
She really is a cute as a button isnt she!! Thank you so much for sharing your photos. I havent been on in a while but we have a miniature horse forum in Ireland and as minis are just taking off here we have been discussing dwarfism as many on our forum are just starting out with minis and there are a lot of problems here with dealiers selling horses with bad conformation and dwarfism. I was wondering if you would mind us showing a couple of your pics on our forum or if not, can we direct people to view them on here as she doesnt look particularly dwarfy until as you say, she is standing next to a normal foal. Its the minimal dwarfs that can make it difficult to know what you are looking at,Thanks so much again.


You are more than welcome to use any of my photos. Wink

Button is actually a full-blown Dwarf. I could tell immediately when she was born, that she was a Dwarf....even tho she didn't look that much like one right after birth. She had the underbite, the cute VERY dished face with high placed nostrils, and was very tiny...but already thick (filled out body).

Dwarfs usually look their most refined at birth & then will continue to get broader & fatter as they grow....but their neck & legs won't grow much at all...so they will get more & more "Dwarfy" looking as they age.

A full-blown Dwarf is homozygous for Dwarfism & will have TWO Dwarf genes...getting one from the sire & one from the dam. There is a big range of severity in Dwarfs. Some are minorly affected & do very well....while others have so many problems that they die soon after birth, or have to be humanely euthenized at birth. Sad

A lot of what many call "minimal Dwarfs" are not actually Dwarfs. They are "carriers" and only have one Dwarf gene. Some of these may have one or two dwarf "traits" such as excessive dish to face, or underbite, but don't really look like a full-blown Dwarf. And, some "carriers" may actually show no visible Dwarf traits at all!

Just remember...

(2) Dwarf genes = Dwarf
(1) Dwarf gene = Carrier

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